Where Are Our Greater Works Than Christ?

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Of all the many times I must have read John 14:12 in my life, and that only now it strikes me is astounding.  This happens often.  A case, I guess, of, ‘when the student is ready, the teacher appears’.

“He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”

Where are our greater works than Christ?  Set that aside even.  Where are our works of Christ?  I’m not talking about the fruits of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, self control).  I’m talking about his works.  Healing the sick, making the blind see, the lame walk, giving life back to the dead, prophesying (among other things that some would consider debatable).

What greater things shall we be doing than raising the dead?

Somehow I think that if my husband were to raise someone from the dead, people would automatically assume that he was some kind of minion for the devil, or drawing upon darker powers.  Somehow, and I don’t know why I think this, I don’t think they would assume he was drawing on the powers of heaven.

Why? I ask myself.  Maybe because we have lost faith in the power of God while evil is all around us.  Maybe it is our lack of faith that keeps us from doing greater works than Christ.

Again, if someone did come along and do greater works than Christ, or at least works equal to his, most would call him a devil.

If anyone were to be doing greater works than Christ, would it not likely be a Prophet of God?  Do our Church leaders (do I dare call them prophets when I have heard no prophecy since I joined the Church in 2006?) do greater works than Christ?  Equal works to Christ?  I have not seen this, other than a blessing on someone who was sick who got better.

Again I have to ask, if someone did come along and do the works (and greater) of Christ, how well would we receive him?

Joseph Smith came along prophesying and having visions and revealing doctrine.  He was not received by the world.  He was considered blasphemous by Protestants and by mainstream Christianity today.  Well, then, what should one doing works equal to or greater than Christ look like?

And why did Christ say we shall do these works because he goeth to his Father?  I gather because he wouldn’t be here to do them.  Mainstream Christianity says we can’t have any Prophets after Christ.  If it be true, who are the people doing works equal to or greater than Christ?  Who should come after him and do these things (if not prophets)?

Since the Church was formed as a result of the Priesthood, the Priesthood exists independent of the Church.  The Lord revealed that if the Church did not do his will, he would accomplish his work through another people (looking for this reference… anyone know?).  I am left wondering and looking for this other people.  Where is the Priesthood?  Where are the people doing the works, and greater, of Christ?

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  1. Hello,
    I just stumbled upon this website and am quite intrigued, to say the least. I have the references you are looking for and will insert them here. I apologize for the large amount. They were all so good, I couldn’t not include them.

    The church is built up by revelation, given from day to day according to the requirements of the people. The Lord will not cease to give revelations to the people, unless, the people trample on his laws and forsake and reject him. I request that the Latter-day Saints may pray that we may have the outpouring of the Spirit that we may hear, and I wish them to pray for me that I may have Strength, and that I may make every principle I speak upon so perfectly plain, that we may all understand as quick as when we talk together upon our daily matters. This church has been led by revelation, and unless We forsake the Lord entirely, so that the priesthood is taken from us, it will be led by revelation all the time. (Brigham Young, October 6, 1844, in General Conference, DHC 7:284)

    If we are afraid to rebuke iniquity, or ashamed to cast it off ourselves, Israel would go to hell, we should be cut off as a people, and the Lord would raise up another; for He is bound to have a people in the last days who will keep His commandments, and magnify their calling, and prove themselves friends of God, and maintain the principles of righteousness, and honor them before God, angels, and men, that His kingdom may be established in purity, and be prepared for the coming of the Messiah; (Wilford Woodruff, February 25, 1855, JD 2:200)

    When “Mormonism” finds favor with the wicked in this land, it will have gone into the shade; but until the power of the Priesthood is gone, “Mormonism” will never become popular with the wicked. “Mormonism” is not one farthing better than it was in the days of Joseph. (Brigham Young, August 31, 1856, JD 4:33)

    Many of this people have broken their covenants by finding fault with the plurality of wives, and trying to sink it out of existence. But you cannot do that, for God will cut you off and raise up another people that will carry out His purposes in righteousness unless you walk up to the line of your duty. On the one hand there is glory and exaltation, and on the other no tongue can express the suffering and affliction this people will pass through if they do not repent. (Heber C. Kimball, September 28, 1856, JD, 4:108)

    But unless the Saints will so live and so exert themselves that they can preserve the purity of the holy Priesthood among them, the work will be left to other people. (George A. Smith, January 3, 1858, JD 6:161)

    Our Father in heaven wishes us to preserve that which he gives to us. If we are prodigal and wasteful of his blessings, it will be said—“Take from them that which they seem to have and give it to another people.” (Brigham Young: January 26, 1862, JD 9:167)

    When we see the time that we can willingly strike hands and have full fellowship with those who despise the Kingdom of God, know ye then that the Priesthood of the Son of God is out of your possession. Let us be careful how we make friends with and fellowship unrighteousness, lest the curse of God descends heavily upon us. (Brigham Young, October 6, 1863, JD 10:273)

    There is nothing plainer to my mind than this, that if the Latter-day Saints become luxurious and extravagant; if they love the world and forsake their former purity; if they forsake their frugality and temperance, and the principles which God has revealed unto them, and by the practice of which they are to-day the people that they are; we shall be overthrown as others have been overthrown. (George Q. Cannon, October 8, 1872, JD 15:200)

    I do not know but that it would be an utter impossibility to commence and carry out some principles pertaining to Zion right in the midst of this people. They have strayed so far that to get a people who would conform to heavenly laws it may be needful to lead some from the midst of this people and commence anew somewhere in the regions round about in these mountains. (Orson Pratt, March 9, 1873, JD 15:361-362)

    Hear it, ye elders of Israel, and mark it down in your logbooks; the fullness of the Gospel is the United Order, and the Order of Plural Marriage; without these two principles this gospel never can be full. And I much fear that when I am gone this people will give up these two principles which we prize so highly; and if they do this church cannot advance as God wishes it to Advance. (Brigham Young, Dedication Sermon, St. George Temple Dedication, April 6, 1877)

    And with regard to the conduct of this people—if an angel should come here and speak his feelings as plainly as I do, I think he would say, “O, Latter-day Saints! why don’t you see, why don’t you open your eyes and behold the great work resting upon you and that you have entered into? You are blind, you are stupid, you are in the dark, in the mist and fog, wandering to and fro like the boat upon the water without sail, rudder or oar; and you know not whither you are going. (Brigham Young, August 19, 1877, Brigham Young’s last public discourse—JD 19:93-94)

    I told the people that if they would not believe the revelations that God had given, He would suffer the Devil to give revelations that they—priests and people—would follow after. . . . I told the people that as true as God lived, if they would not have truth, they would have error sent unto them and they would believe it. (Brigham Young, June 8, 1878, Deseret News)

    The direst persecutions we ever had to suffer, occurred before the doctrine of polygamy was taught or believed in. There is nothing short of complete apostasy, a complete denial of every principle we have received, a throwing away of the Holy Priesthood, that can save us from persecution. When this takes place, when all the chief features of the Gospel are obliterated, when we can float along the stream and do as the world does, then and not till then will persecution cease, or until the adversary is bound. (George Q. Cannon, May 15, 1881, JD 22:374)

    What would be necessary to bring about the result nearest the heart of the opponents of ‘Mormonism,’ more properly termed the Gospel of the Son of God? Simply to renounce, abrogate, or apostatize from the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage in its fullness. Were the Church to do that as an entirety, God would reject the Saints as a body. The authority of the Priesthood would be withdrawn, with its gifts and powers, and there would be no more heavenly recognition of the ordinances among this people. The heavens would permanently withdraw themselves, and the Lord would raise up another people of greater valor and stability, for His work must, according to His unalterable decrees, go forward. (Charles W. Penrose, Deseret News, April 23, 1885)

    We are getting into such a condition that if we were to meet the Lord, we could not look Him in the face, and the way we are going it will soon be impossible to tell what we do believe (President John Taylor, quoted in the Deseret News Weekly, March 9, 1889)

    I attended sessions of meetings for the institute teachers, held in the assembly room on the 4th floor of the Church Office Building. I cannot say that I was very greatly edified. Too much philosophy of a worldly nature does not seem to mix well with the fundamentals of the Gospel. In my opinion, many of our teachers employed in the Church school system have adsorbed too much of the paganism of the world, and have accepted too readily the views of uninspired educators without regard for the revealed word of the Lord. What to do about it, I don’t know. It is a problem for the Presidency to consider. It is a very apparent fact that we have traveled far and wide in the past 20 years [since his father’s death]. What the future will bring, I do not know. But if we drift as far afield from the fundamental things in the next 20 years, what will be left of the foundation laid by the Prophet Joseph Smith? It is easy for one who observes to see how the apostasy came about in the primitive Church of Jesus Christ. Are we not traveling the same road? (Joseph Fielding Smith, Journal Entry of December 28, 1938, Quoted in the “Life of Joseph Fielding Smith,” Joseph Fielding Smith and John J. Stewart, p. 212)

    Now, let me say a few things. Your thoughts, feelings, and premonitions are headed on the right path. Let the Spirit of the Lord continue to work upon your heart in these matters. The modern LDS Church has fallen into apostasy and the Lord has called another people. If you are interested in hearing more, then let’s talk about it. It appears that you have done much study on your own which is so important, and I commend you for that. God bless you for seeking out the mysteries of godliness as we are commanded to in the scriptures(Alma 12:9-11), and for having the courage to put it out there as a testament to the world.

    Your fellow servant in Christ,

    alofofbread@gmail.com

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